| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Sean |
Posted - 10/09/2008 : 01:36:59
Penguins are gazing in the direction of war, anger is once again tearing open my chest.   |
| 15 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Koli |
Posted - 10/16/2008 : 19:14:35
Well, I be flabbergasted and no mistake. Thanks everybody who fired in my direction. 
New challenge follows shortly.
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| Cheese_Ed |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 23:23:51
The WAR turned into a slaughter, pretty much...
In third place, with 9 points (3,2,2,1,1)...
They're pen-goin' to war...
Se�n !!
In second place, with 12 points (3,3,2,2,1,1)...
You were right, not a winner but that compelling story drew a lot of votes...
bife  !!
And in first place, with 19 points (3,3,3,3,2,2,1,1,1)...
What a bunch of Bush-hits...
Koli  !!!
Koli, you won the battle and the WAR! Now what will be our next peace?
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| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 10/15/2008 : 13:42:38
I fought with myself on who to vote for, but I think I won! |
| Cheese_Ed |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 22:34:54
quote:
Originally posted by duh Improper Username
Cheese, I'm still having some server issues. Altho fwiffer.com appears to be working, that could change at any moment, as all my sites have actually been moved to a new server and there are many missing files. I have backed everything up but it would be a good idea not to count on files, etc. being there when you need them, until the dust settles.
No problemo! |
| duh |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 22:22:56
Cheese, I'm still having some server issues. Altho fwiffer.com appears to be working, that could change at any moment, as all my sites have actually been moved to a new server and there are many missing files. I have backed everything up but it would be a good idea not to count on files, etc. being there when you need them, until the dust settles. |
| Koli |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 18:01:28
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n
Bife, that makes sense. Watching someone being murdered is going to be infinitely more devastating than visiting Auschwitz (where millions were murdered). I think it needs to be personalised in order to be 'believable' on a subliminal level. Knowing that something is real and experiencing the 'realness' are very different things. The photos of the victims made it real. I found visiting Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam a more powerful experience than visiting Dachau, probably for the same reason.
I agree. I too thought of my visit to Anne Frank's house after reading what Bife wrote. We cannot comprehend the enormity of killing on such a massive scale, but can identify with an individual or family.
PS I had a really good cup of coffee at a cafe just across the canal from the Frank house, and if you ever go back make sure you visit both buildings.
PS 2 - voted. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 12:44:52
Signed the peace treaty and voted.
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| Larry |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 11:36:22
Voted without jumping the gun. |
| bife |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 08:33:04
Voted  |
| MguyX |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 08:20:50
No need to fight: I voted for peace. |
| Sean |
Posted - 10/14/2008 : 04:24:02
Bife, that makes sense. Watching someone being murdered is going to be infinitely more devastating than visiting Auschwitz (where millions were murdered). I think it needs to be personalised in order to be 'believable' on a subliminal level. Knowing that something is real and experiencing the 'realness' are very different things. The photos of the victims made it real. I found visiting Anne Frank's house in Amsterdam a more powerful experience than visiting Dachau, probably for the same reason.
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| Cheese_Ed |
Posted - 10/13/2008 : 13:52:36
Who will shoot the first votes over to me?
www.fwiffer.com |
| MguyX |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 23:47:54
Very poignant, bife. |
| Koli |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 18:07:22
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe
quote:
Originally posted by Koli
It's so easy to take a pop at George Bush that I decided to look for something different.
But I was drawn to this portrait of G W Bush, because it's made up of the photos of US servicemen killed in Iraq.
I can't show the larger version, because the file is too big, but if you find a large one on the net you can make out the faces of the individuals that make up the whole.
I believe it's called War President.
Look here
Thanks BB. Nice one. |
| bife |
Posted - 10/11/2008 : 08:10:05
I've been playing avatar for long enough to know that this isn't a winner, but I couldn't not enter this week.
I visited one of the nazi concentration camps with my parents when I was about 15 (horrified now to say I am not even sure which one), it had very little impact on me. Part of that may have been age, but part of it was that the place itself didn't "connect" with me in any way - the atrocities that had happened there were to big to imagine, I couldn't personalise the experience in any way. The gas chamber was a room, it couldn't be a room where men, women and children were slaughtered. There was no way to bring the experience down to my level, to make it or the victims 'real', the scale and strength of the atrocity was beyond my ability to understand, and the buildings where it had happened couldn't change that.
About 3 years ago after a visit to Angkor Wat I started reading up on Cambodian history. So on a short trip last year to Phnom Penh, the capital, I made sure to visit Tuol Sleng, or S21, an interrogation centre set up by the Khmer Rouge after they took power in a civil war in 1975. I knew a fair bit about the prison before going, and knew that its 'central exhibit' was rows of photos of the victims. Based on my experiences previously I didn't really expect to get too much out of visitng Tuol Sleng.
We wandered around the some of the torture chambers and cells, and I thought maybe age and maturity would enable a greater effect on me than the concentration camp had 20 years before, but it didn't. It was all very horrific and shocking, but I still couldn't connect the dots, I couldn't make it 'real'
Then we hit the photos.
The Khmer Rouge were great record keepers, and they photographed and catalogued every admission to the prison for its 5 years or so of existence. Of the 17,000 who entered Tuol Sleng, only 12 people came out alive.
I can't explain the impact the photos had on me. They aren't particularly gruesome or disturbing in themselves (they are 'passport style' photos taken as the prisoners were admitted), but it smashed into context the place where i was. I looked deep into the eyes of row upon row of people who would within weeks be dead, and likely tortured and mutilated.
Row on row on row, men, soldiers, women, children, I'd been looking at them choking back tears for about an hour, I lost my wife who was probably sitting outside bored waiting for me. She wasn't outside, she was staring, tears streaming down her face, at rows of childrens' faces, every one of them murdered shortly after the photo was taken.
I really can't explain the impact it had on me, I am a cynic at heart and I knew what to expect, but every photo told a story of a life, a life that would be demolished so soon afterwards.
Anyway, that's why I'm choosing this as my entry for this week; it made me cry the only tears I've ever cried for anything other than the death of a close family member. |
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